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dianaiad



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:55 pm    Post subject: Old Prude here.... Reply with quote

OK, I"ve been a fan of books all my life. I love romance, too; science fiction, paranormal....hey; if it has words in it, I'll read it.

However.

I'm getting REALLY tired of having to skip over pages and pages and pages of porn in order to get the plot. If I have to read one more flowery description of tab A getting inserted into slot B, (with adjectives) I may scream.

I'm not an idiot; I know how this stuff works. Shoot, I've got five kids. Trust me, I didn't get 'em through telekinesis!

Do I really have to restrict myself to Georgette Heyer (may her name be forever in the front of Romance novels not to be missed)? Doesn't anybody write stuff that depends upon plot, wit, characterization and imagination, not the exchange of body fluids in ever more unbelievable verbiage?

No romance novels that stay on the OUTSIDE of the bedroom door?

Am I hopelessly doomed?

Diana
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xina



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are quite a number of "just kisses" romances reviewed here. Just go to the top of the page where it says...Reviews, and go to the search where you will go to the Sensuality rating (on the right) Pick "kisses" and there you go. Romances with only kisses. Also, under Special Titles Listings there are some very good titles under "One Foot On The Floor".

I don't mind well written love scenes. Some authors do them better than others. I can get into a decent love scene.
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Lynda X



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too many books are just excuses for scene after scene with the couple in bed, under the bed, against the wall, down the well, etc. I also must admit that now that I'm older, these scenes do not appeal to me as much as they did when I was younger, so I think the problem is the repetition of sex scenes, undeveloped plot and character, and me, with my declining hormones, frankly.

I suggest you read Carla Kelly and Maggie Osborne. And there's always Austen. . .
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Eggletina



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recommend Sheila Simonson's four Regencies. If you like Austen or Heyer they should appeal. And for a classic, I recommend reading Gaskell's "North and South" followed up by watching the BBC production with Richard Armitage.
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PamelaM



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To give you more of an idea of what has been published recently go to the "Reviews" tab at the top of this page and hit "Power Search." Suggest you use a broad search method first on this page to get the most results. Just fill in only two categories , "Publish Date" (2011, 2010...) and Sensuality (kisses). Then hit "Search." This will give you a myriad of authors, sub-genres, etc. to select.
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dianaiad



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PamelaM wrote:
To give you more of an idea of what has been published recently go to the "Reviews" tab at the top of this page and hit "Power Search." Suggest you use a broad search method first on this page to get the most results. Just fill in only two categories , "Publish Date" (2011, 2010...) and Sensuality (kisses). Then hit "Search." This will give you a myriad of authors, sub-genres, etc. to select.


Thank you one and all! This question is why I joined this group, to be honest; my Nook and I love you, one and all. Wink
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Rosie



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you mind "Subtle"? You might like Kaki Warner's westerns.

And I've heard Julie James' Just the Sexiest Man Alive was completely love-scene free.
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jaime



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would recommend the Golden Chronicles series by Patricia Veryan. As I remember there is no explicit sexuality in this series. I remember the last book in the series, "The Dedicated Villain" as especially good.

I also highly recommend a book by Edith Layton called "The Duke's Wager" which is a very compelling Regency romance with no sex scenes.
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JudyZ6666



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Old Prude here.... Reply with quote

dianaiad wrote:
OK, I"ve been a fan of books all my life. I love romance, too; science fiction, paranormal....hey; if it has words in it, I'll read it.

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Am I hopelessly doomed?

Diana


If you like paranormal and romance, with some time travel thrown in, you might like Lynn Kurland. She had a few sex scenes in her earlier books, but after she established herself, she went with what she wanted, which is a very behind-closed-doors approach.

Judy
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Yulie



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: Old Prude here.... Reply with quote

dianaiad wrote:
I'm getting REALLY tired of having to skip over pages and pages and pages of porn in order to get the plot. If I have to read one more flowery description of tab A getting inserted into slot B, (with adjectives) I may scream.

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Do I really have to restrict myself to Georgette Heyer (may her name be forever in the front of Romance novels not to be missed)? Doesn't anybody write stuff that depends upon plot, wit, characterization and imagination, not the exchange of body fluids in ever more unbelievable verbiage?

No romance novels that stay on the OUTSIDE of the bedroom door?

I find your choice of the word "porn" to describe love scenes in romance novels really unfortunate, and I have read plenty of sexy books that weren't lacking when it came to "plot, wit, characterization and imagination". I totally get not feeling comfortable with and/or interested in reading certain things; I have my boundaries, too. But this sort of negativity comes across as judgmental of other people's reading choices and sexuality. I'm not going to judge your reading preferences, so please don't judge mine.

I do have some recs for you, though: first of all, there are Eva Ibbotson's books, especially the wonderful A Countess Below Stairs as well as Magic Flutes (republished under a different title, I forget what exactly). I recently read Maid to Match by DeeAnne Gist, which is an inspy but relatively light on religious content, and it was very good, with no descriptions of anything beyond kisses. Joanna Bourne's first book, Her Ladyship's Companion, is a gothic and has no sex scenes - kissing only.

Another book (which I haven't read) is a YA romance called Life on the Edge; I think that one has no sex scenes, though I'm not certain. The author is someone I know from skating forums, so if you're interested I can drop her a line and ask.

You know, the first three Plums have no explicit sex scenes - I don't think it's kisses only, but it's not until the fourth book that Stephanie actually has sex with anyone.
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Kristie(J)



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I find your choice of the word "porn" to describe love scenes in romance novels really unfortunate, and I have read plenty of sexy books that weren't lacking when it came to "plot, wit, characterization and imagination".


I found that particular sentence offensive as well. Many, many years ago I left romance and when I came back to it preferred kisses only books myself. I gradually started accepting love scenes (NOT porn) so I do know where the poster is coming from. I find many a love scene too explicit or unnecessary too, but I would never label the whole more explicit scenes as porn. For me, a well written love scene is an extension and physical expression of love between the hero and heroine and to call it "porn" is unpleasant. I recently read a kisses only book where there was real chemistry and attraction between the hero and heroine and when I finished I was kind of wishing for a more physical connection between the two.

If some readers prefer kisses only, that's all well and good. I was there myself, but don't put those kinds of labels on very well written books that do have them please. It seems we romance readers often have struggles trying to justify our choice of genre without someone who is a member themselves seemingly sitting in judgement also.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really Kristie(J) and Yulie, you felt the need to call the OP out on her use of the word porn in conjunction with romance. I love the hypocrisy that we posters on the AAR forums have. In one breath we say how we appreciate having a non-judgemental discussion of romance on the forums, but as soon as someone pushes one of our hot buttons we're all over it.

I didn't see anything in the original post that made me thing the OP was making a value judgement of people who enjoy many love scenes in their books. And even if in her personal view, she actually considers love scenes to be porn, so what, isn't she entitled to her opinion.

Yet, I've seen it time and time again that someone on the boards says something that someone disagrees with and that person feels the need to "educate" them on how offensive their comment is. Get over it!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: Old Prude here.... Reply with quote

Yulie wrote:
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I find your choice of the word "porn" to describe love scenes in romance novels really unfortunate, and I have read plenty of sexy books that weren't lacking when it came to "plot, wit, characterization and imagination". in .

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I have to admit, I had the same reaction when I read the remark about porn, but decided not to address it. I get so tired of romance novel readers online defending their reading choices. I often wonder why they bother. However, as long as you mentioned it, I do feel that painting the whole genre with such a broad brush is unfortunate.
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Yulie



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

clutterconqueror wrote:
Really Kristie(J) and Yulie, you felt the need to call the OP out on her use of the word porn in conjunction with romance. I love the hypocrisy that we posters on the AAR forums have. In one breath we say how we appreciate having a non-judgemental discussion of romance on the forums, but as soon as someone pushes one of our hot buttons we're all over it.

If dianaiad has any objections to what I wrote or would like to discuss the matter further, in this thread or via PM, I will be happy to do so. I have no interest in explaining or justifying myself to you, however.

Certainly this is a discussion forum and dissenting opinions are allowed; dianaiad is more than welcome to use the language she used - but I am more than welcome to explain why I take issue with it, as is Kristie (ETA: and Xina). That's how free speech works. Whether any of the other posters want to engage in further dialogue about this issue is up to them.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: Old Prude here.... Reply with quote

Yulie wrote:
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If dianaiad has any objections to what I wrote or would like to discuss the matter further, in this thread or via PM, I will be happy to do so. I have no interest in explaining or justifying myself to you, however.


I'm sorry I didn't realize that only the original poster could take offense to your post.

Yulie wrote:

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But this sort of negativity comes across as judgmental of other people's reading choices and sexuality. I'm not going to judge your reading preferences, so please don't judge mine.


This sort of negativity comes across as condescending. You're clearly making an assumption of a value judgement that may or may not have been expressed.

And I'm certainly as much entitled to my opinion as you are of yours.

Also, I think your response is the perfect example of the hypocrisy that occurs on these boards
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