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Kass
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chiricahuagal
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I think "ponder" has a little bit more... nuanced meaning? than "thinking" - I mean, I think all the time. I'm hungry. I need a glass of water. I need to go pick up the mail - I think those things inside my head as my body or brain reminds me to do so.
"hmmmmm...." (wondering why so many people thought this was good and I thought it was crap and what I missed that they saw...) "hmmmmm...." (that's me pondering this issue) Maybe it's a more active and involved verb than "think" _________________ Melinda |
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Gail K.

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| Schola wrote: | | Since this thread has been revived, I'm suprised that the fans of The Marriage Bed haven't chimed in about that. |
You know, reading the latest responses on TMB thread, I think the converse of this question should be asked:
Why does it bother you when people like a book YOU don't like?? |
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Tee

Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 4053 Location: Detroit Metro
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Gail K. wrote: | You know, reading the latest responses on TMB thread, I think the converse of this question should be asked:
Why does it bother you when people like a book YOU don't like?? |
It really doesn't bother me one way or another, Gail. But unless we voice our individual opinions of books we've read, we would never have any discussions on this site. So sometimes these discussions sound as though we're bothered by others' opinions, but I think it's more that we're trying to understand what it was that someone liked about a book we personally didn't enjoy, or vice versa. We're doing it to keep AAR alive and kicking.  |
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Gail K.

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| Tee, there's a diff between thoughtful discussion and an insistence on having the last word, like a pitbull (lipsticked?) with a bone. |
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Tee

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Gail K. wrote: | | Tee, there's a diff between thoughtful discussion and an insistence on having the last word, like a pitbull (lipsticked?) with a bone. |
Yeah--there is that too. Oh, well--I tried!  |
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Amanda

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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I know very few people who will admit to reading romance novels and I find that I'm very frustrated trying to have an intelligent conversation about the book I just read with the few people who do. These forums give us an oportunity to discuss plot devises, characterizations, motivations and the feelings they generate within us. As a result, I think people get so passionate about their experiences with this type of book that they may be a bit over zealous. I think we just get so excited to talk about a part of our lives we go a bit crazy and may come across as 'bothered' during discussions. Really, it's a lot to ponder.  |
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Linda in sw va

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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:52 am Post subject: |
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| Gail K. wrote: |
Why does it bother you when people like a book YOU don't like?? |
Oh I like this one, good question!
Linda _________________ "The Bookshop has a thousand books, all colors, hues and tinges, and every cover is a door that turns on magic hinges." ~ Nancy Byrd Turner |
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Schola

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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: |
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| Gail K. wrote: | | Schola wrote: | | Since this thread has been revived, I'm suprised that the fans of The Marriage Bed haven't chimed in about that. |
You know, reading the latest responses on TMB thread, I think the converse of this question should be asked:
Why does it bother you when people like a book YOU don't like?? |
Touche! I set myself up for that one, didn't I?
Actually, like Dick, I usually assume I have the better opinion and just keep silent about it. (I was a model of discretion the year Dan Brown was so hot. ) I'm more talkative here because it's a message board . . . and because there's another thread about how the boards have been so slow lately. (Yes, everyone, I'm just doing my part! ) _________________ "To be in a romance is to be in uncongenial surroundings. To be born into this earth is to be born into uncongenial surroundings, hence to be born into a romance." (G.K. Chesterton) |
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Tee

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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| Schola wrote: | I'm more talkative here because it's a message board . . . and because there's another thread about how the boards have been so slow lately. (Yes, everyone, I'm just doing my part! ) |
Excellent way of looking at it, Schola. I'm proud of your stepping up to the plate so admirably.  |
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Gail K.

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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Schola, there's also a diff between continuing a conversation for the sake of offering variant opinions and continuing a conversation for the sake of continuing, once the main opinions from all sides have already been expressed. But, carry on...I'm going to amuse myself on other threads
This is what I don't get about the Wild Wild West board, either. Clearly we all come in with strong stances...Very few minds will be changed. Oh well, I guess the human race is just programmed to be argumentative...especially those attracted to internet boards  |
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Schola

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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:05 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure what you mean, Gail. I mean, if we all gave our varying opinions and left it at that, it wouldn't seem like a conversation to me. It would be more like a survey: say your piece and leave it at that. I like the give and take of saying what we think of others' opinions--even if it sometimes seems like an argument.
I see a lot of threads die a natural death when I feel that there is a lot more to be said--and not just by locquacious me, I might add!  _________________ "To be in a romance is to be in uncongenial surroundings. To be born into this earth is to be born into uncongenial surroundings, hence to be born into a romance." (G.K. Chesterton) |
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Gail K.

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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| I guess I have a lower tolerance than most, Schola, for repetition of ideas...not to mention a shorter attention span! This is sorta what I meant when I said I wanted "new blood" to chime in on these boards. To keep things fresh. I get bored when it's the same regulars chiming in with the same "type" of opinions, which, honestly, I can predict after a while. Anyway, sorry if my explanation offends but that's just how I feel. |
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dick
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to gailk: I sense that some of the opinions expressed, or perhaps the perseverance of some posters has made you angry. If I was one of those, I regret that my doing so led to your anger. Still, don't you think that even re-iterated opinions often expose something more to discuss? I will admit to becoming attached to my own thoughts, as others do also. Don't you do that as well? I have no quarrel with those who like a book I don't like, but I'm always willing to discuss the elements of the book which led to my dislike of it and willing to read yours.
Isn't that what the directions at the beginning of the boards ask us to do? |
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Gail K.

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| dick wrote: | to gailk: I sense that some of the opinions expressed, or perhaps the perseverance of some posters has made you angry. If I was one of those, I regret that my doing so led to your anger. Still, don't you think that even re-iterated opinions often expose something more to discuss? I will admit to becoming attached to my own thoughts, as others do also. Don't you do that as well? I have no quarrel with those who like a book I don't like, but I'm always willing to discuss the elements of the book which led to my dislike of it and willing to read yours.
Isn't that what the directions at the beginning of the boards ask us to do? |
Hi dick,
No need for regrets; I'm not angry so much as exasperated. And I'm taking out my exasperation on this thread because it was brought up. I started out the week excited to share the news that yay! I found good books to read in Romance for once. Of course I don't expect everyone to share my likes and dislikes. I guess I feel like my parade is being rained on a bit After years of posting on this site, I'm sensitive to that as I used to do it to others, as has been pointed out to me in the past, I think. And I'm still following TMB thread but with the exception of Schola re-reading and re-thinking some of her original ideas, I don't find new insights being added. I do like hearing from the newer posters who were not involved in the "original" debate, however!
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