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Where are the Wealthy Powerful Historical Heroes?

 
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erika



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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 8:58 pm    Post subject: Where are the Wealthy Powerful Historical Heroes? Reply with quote

As a fan of historicals I've noticed a trend where heroes have to marry to fulfill a Will; is somewhat controlled by mother, father grandfather, grandmother and marries because of pressure from them; has to marry a heroine for money; are poor but titled.

I miss those older Brenda Joyce, Meagan Mckinney, Catherine Coulter novels with wealthy powerful larger than life heroes.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah, I love those. The guys that can do anything, have anything they want. Haven't read one in a long time, now that you've made me think about it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 1:14 am    Post subject: Re: Where are the Wealthy Powerful Historical Heroes? Reply with quote

erika wrote:
Where are the Wealthy Powerful Historical Heroes?

They are in many, many books in the historical sub-genre, even today. It's much easier to find wealthy heroes in historicals than it is to find poor ones, even when looking at books written more recently.

I suspect you may be referring to a very specific type of wealthy and powerful hero, Erika; perhaps you should list some of the additional qualities you're looking for.
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erika



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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:54 am    Post subject: Re: Where are the Wealthy Powerful Historical Heroes? Reply with quote

Yulie wrote:
erika wrote:
Where are the Wealthy Powerful Historical Heroes?

They are in many, many books in the historical sub-genre, even today. It's much easier to find wealthy heroes in historicals than it is to find poor ones, even when looking at books written more recently.

I suspect you may be referring to a very specific type of wealthy and powerful hero, Erika; perhaps you should list some of the additional qualities you're looking for.


I'm not so sure there are many books out there with the type of hero I mentioned. I check the romances on sale every month and am not seeing this hero type.

Yes there are wealthy heroes but most are not powerful almost untouchable in society and can't be forced to do the bidding of relatives wanting him to marry.

Heroes in Anne Stuart House of Rohan series comes to mind as an example of heroes I described also Scandalous Love by Brenda Joyce an example of a specific book.
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Eggletina



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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you read any of the books in Jennifer Ashley's Highland Pleasures series? Oldest brother, Hart Mackenzie, is wealthy and politically powerful. Danelle Harmon's Lucien de Montforte (oldest brother in The Wicked One) might be another.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't read historicals as much as I do contemporaries, so I hesitate to make any general comments, but yes; I have noticed that more recent historicals often offer up heroes who are somewhat as vulnerable or under similar pressures as heroines. I guess this is a way of switching things up and making heroes more human and subject to the many forces of their world ... to which they probably were in reality. It also opens up new storytelling possibilities.

I'm sure that powerful, wealthy heroes are still being written, but I have so much reading to catch up with, I don't have to rely on it. Wink I'm still working on the older historicals where those types of heroes are more frequent.

In fact, I'm reading one now ... which is out of print: Linda Francis Lee's Blue Waltz. It's really good, and I'll be talking about it in more detail in the reading challenge thread once I finish.
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ChrisReader



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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't read a ton of new historicals so you may have already encountered these:

Joanna Bourne- all her heroes are powerful and wealthy to some degree but not all are titled if that matters. I'd say the ratio is about half or more.

Lisa Kleypas - most if not all of her heroes are at least very wealthy with most of them titled as well.

Meredith Duran- I think all of her heroes are wealthy and powerful at the time the novels take place ( even if they were not in the past).

These are just the ones off the top of my head.
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erika



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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eggletina wrote:
Have you read any of the books in Jennifer Ashley's Highland Pleasures series? Oldest brother, Hart Mackenzie, is wealthy and politically powerful. Danelle Harmon's Lucien de Montforte (oldest brother in The Wicked One) might be another.


I have read both Ashley and Harmon. Its been ages since I read Harmon's tho.

If I like Ashley's hero and heroine then its bought.
Problem is Ashley doesn't write enough historicals. She needs to write faster!
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erika



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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChrisReader wrote:
I don't read a ton of new historicals so you may have already encountered these:

Joanna Bourne- all her heroes are powerful and wealthy to some degree but not all are titled if that matters. I'd say the ratio is about half or more.

Lisa Kleypas - most if not all of her heroes are at least very wealthy with most of them titled as well.

Meredith Duran- I think all of her heroes are wealthy and powerful at the time the novels take place ( even if they were not in the past).

These are just the ones off the top of my head.


Yep, read Duran. Kleypas heroes while wealthy are vulnerable to societies relatives whims, moreso in her recent books.

I haven't read Bourne only because I'm picky about heroines. Bourne writes heroines I don't care for.
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erika



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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandlynn wrote:
I don't read historicals as much as I do contemporaries, so I hesitate to make any general comments, but yes; I have noticed that more recent historicals often offer up heroes who are somewhat as vulnerable or under similar pressures as heroines. I guess this is a way of switching things up and making heroes more human and subject to the many forces of their world ... to which they probably were in reality. It also opens up new storytelling possibilities.

I'm sure that powerful, wealthy heroes are still being written, but I have so much reading to catch up with, I don't have to rely on it. Wink I'm still working on the older historicals where those types of heroes are more frequent.

In fact, I'm reading one now ... which is out of print: Linda Francis Lee's Blue Waltz. It's really good, and I'll be talking about it in more detail in the reading challenge thread once I finish.


I think you're right however I'm tired of vunerable heroes.

Don't know why publishers don't allow for more diversity allowing for more trends to develop instead of being so narrow.
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erika



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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgot to mention the book which inspired this thread. Its Love Only Once by Johanna Lindsay. Obviously the hero ultimately succumbed to pressure but it was more the power that was the Mallory's and not his own family who had wanted him wed for ages. The hero's past affaires with virgins didn't even make him vunerable to marriage.
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chris booklover



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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the heroes in Judith McNaught's historicals are wealthy and powerful. In this respect you can't go wrong with her novels.

I can't think of any other historical writer (other than the previously mentioned Anne Stuart) for whom this is true. (Linda Howard and Lisa Marie Rice write contemporary romantic suspense). However, most heroes written by Gaelen Foley, Cheryl Holt, Julianne MacLean and Emma Wildes are decidedly alpha in terms of these characteristics.
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