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ragg2



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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 2:29 pm    Post subject: Looking for insecure hero (wallflower hero?) Reply with quote

I am looking for a book where the hero is NOT certain that the heroine will be attracted to him or wants to share a bed with him, and is maybe even reluctant to take his clothes of or have sex. Normally this would be common for the heroine, but not the hero.
I am so sick of these alpha males with very high self esteem who are just so certain the heroine will fall for them after one look in their direction.
The heroine should not be simpering or helpless.
They might be thrown together by fate (snowstorm?) or marriage of convenience.
The secondhand wife fits this for example, but I didn't like the book because they didn't talk to each other for most of the book.
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ChrisReader



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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you looking for historical or modern novels?

Oddly enough "Lord Of Scoundrels" by Loretta Chase fits- the hero is convinced he is so horrible looking he is unlovable and the heroine is no shrinking violet.

In "Ravished" by Amanda Quick the hero thinks of himself as a beast because of a scar and past betrayal.

In "The Surgeon's Lady" by Carla Kelly the hero is from a very modest background and humble. The widowed heroine is beautiful, well off and has a title so he does not think he is on her level. (He's not at all wimpy though).

I'm sure I can think of more.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More historicals:
The Chance by Edith Layton. The hero thinks of himself as homely and tongue-tied.
The Raven Prince by Elizabeth Hoyt. The hero is pockmarked and not exactly charming.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning Glory by LaVyrle Spenser
The hero Will is a drifter just released from prison...for a crime he didn't commit.
http://www.amazon.com/Morning-Glory-LaVyrle-Spencer/dp/0425229289#_
Texas Destiny by Lorraine Heath.
The hero Houston has severe facial scars from the war and very low self esteem.
http://www.amazon.com/Texas-Destiny-Lorraine-Heath/dp/1568654650/ref=pd_sim_b_6
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

England's Perfect Hero by Suzanne Enoch might fit if you're okay with the European historicals.

I'm actually rather interested in this as well so I'm going to check out some of the other books in here. Maybe it's because I'm a guy that I often find myself thinking I would prefer it if various books had the genders of the hero and heroine swapped. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sure there is a Mary Balogh title that fits into this category, though I don't remember the title. I recall the hero is plain looking and shy and not the typical romance stud. The heroine is beautiful and has had a bad experience with a man in the past and she likes the hero because he is so nice. She also mistakes the hero for a commoner and when she finds out he is titled there is some hand wringing on her part.

Does that ring any bells with anybody?
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PatW



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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaime wrote:
I am sure there is a Mary Balogh title that fits into this category, though I don't remember the title. I recall the hero is plain looking and shy and not the typical romance stud. The heroine is beautiful and has had a bad experience with a man in the past and she likes the hero because he is so nice. She also mistakes the hero for a commoner and when she finds out he is titled there is some hand wringing on her part.

Does that ring any bells with anybody?


You may be thinking of Lord Carew's Bride
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sort of fits Balogh's "The Proposal."
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about Monica Burn's novel, Pleasure Me? The hero, Baron Garrick Stratfield, is a 29 year old virgin with a physical impairment that he believes would make him unattractive to women. The heroine is 41 year old Lady Ruth Attwood whose self confidence has been shaken after she is dumped by her lover for a younger mistress.

The sensuality level is rated "hot" but there is something very sweet and touching about their romance.

You can read the full view here:
http://likesbooks.com/cgi-bin/bookReview.pl?BookReviewId=8285
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatW wrote:
jaime wrote:
I am sure there is a Mary Balogh title that fits into this category, though I don't remember the title. I recall the hero is plain looking and shy and not the typical romance stud. The heroine is beautiful and has had a bad experience with a man in the past and she likes the hero because he is so nice. She also mistakes the hero for a commoner and when she finds out he is titled there is some hand wringing on her part.

Does that ring any bells with anybody?


You may be thinking of Lord Carew's Bride


That's it! Thank you! Lovely book.

http://www.amazon.com/Carews-Bride-Signet-Regency-Romance/product-reviews/0451185528/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry for not answering this earlier, the whole family was down with the flu...
Thanks a lot for your suggestions!! However, I have read quite a few of them, namely:

Lord Carew's Bride
England's Perfect Hero by Suzanne Enoch
Morning Glory by LaVyrle Spenser
Raven Prince by Elizabeth Hoyt
Lord Of Scoundrels" by Loretta Chase
Ravished" by Amanda Quick

all of them I liked, apart from Elizabeth Hoyt, I just find the language esp in the sex scenes too crude.
The scene where they both lie in bed together the first time in the mornig glory was just so funny and emotional, I really liked that.
Same with the Lord of scoundrels, he keeps evading her to avoid the sex.Smile

I am hoping for more suggestions from you!

There is also a book I just remembered where the hero is the ugly brother, being called the gargoyle, and his sister the gargoylette, was that a Balogh, I can't remember.

I have found that quite often I read a book where the hero is sort of shy and reluctant, but when it comes to going to bed with the heroine suddenly, and for my taste completely out of character , becomes the assertive confident male initiator, as if the authors can only write theses scenes in the standard way. Not that I am necessarily looking for warm or hot romances, but it annoys me when this happens. I find that if I have a warm or hot romance in hand I tend to get bored with the sex scenes and just skip them nowadays.
Any thoughts on that?
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragg2 wrote:


There is also a book I just remembered where the hero is the ugly brother, being called the gargoyle, and his sister the gargoylette, was that a Balogh, I can't remember.



This might be Mary Jo Putney's The Wedding of the Century, a short story that was in an anthology, originally Promised Brides, but now possibly called The Wedding of the Century and Other Stories.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragg2 wrote:
all of them I liked, apart from Elizabeth Hoyt, I just find the language esp in the sex scenes too crude.

Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but quite frankly, what is considered crude or merely just a part of human sexuality is a matter of taste from person to person. It has always been that way--forever.

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I have found that quite often I read a book where the hero is sort of shy and reluctant, but when it comes to going to bed with the heroine suddenly, and for my taste completely out of character , becomes the assertive confident male initiator, as if the authors can only write theses scenes in the standard way. Not that I am necessarily looking for warm or hot romances, but it annoys me when this happens. I find that if I have a warm or hot romance in hand I tend to get bored with the sex scenes and just skip them nowadays. Any thoughts on that?

Yes, it's quite simple actually: read inspirational books or other books with no sex in them whatsoever. Do your research before reading a book to see if the author or book is one you are more likely to enjoy.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would definitely recommend "The Surgeon's Lady" by Carla Kelly. If you haven't read her before you are in for a treat as no one writes decent and honorable heroes like she does. Her sex scenes, when she has them are always very tender and in good taste. There is a sweetness (without being gooey or cloying) to her works I think you would enjoy.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChrisReader wrote:
I would definitely recommend "The Surgeon's Lady" by Carla Kelly. If you haven't read her before you are in for a treat as no one writes decent and honorable heroes like she does. Her sex scenes, when she has them are always very tender and in good taste. There is a sweetness (without being gooey or cloying) to her works I think you would enjoy.


In addition to The Surgeon's Lady, try Carla Kelly's Libby's London Merchant, Miss Milton Speaks her Mind, and Miss Billings Treads the Boards. All have heroes who are not super perfect archetypes, but rather good, ordinary men who are perfect for the heroines.

Would Christian from Flowers from the Storm count? I can't remember how confident he is after the stroke.
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