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Linda in sw va

Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 4708
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:11 pm Post subject: 9 things to never say in a book club.. |
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Ok so we're not a book club but we are a discussion forum and I could see some truth in these, too funny!
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/26/living/bad-book-club-talk/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
Linda _________________ "The Bookshop has a thousand books, all colors, hues and tinges, and every cover is a door that turns on magic hinges." ~ Nancy Byrd Turner |
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Tee

Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 4062 Location: Detroit Metro
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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That was very funny, Linda, and maybe just a bit too close to the truth.  |
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ChrisReader
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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LOL, I'm sure I've seen a number of these statements used, if not just here but all over the web.
I have to say I don't see a big problem with #1- it gets the conversation rolling anyway  |
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xina

Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 6630 Location: minneapolis
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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I belong to a wine drinking book club in Real Life. We've probably said all those things, and more. I blame the alcohol. really.  _________________ "As you wish"
~The Princess Bride |
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Nicole

Joined: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 468 Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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That was funny. I'm guilty of a lot of those, but probably number 8 the most. Oops... _________________ She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain. -Louisa May Alcott |
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ladynaava
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't know, some of these I wouldn't have an issue at all with someone saying... =-) |
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Linda in sw va

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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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I think number 4 somtimes becomes an issue here!
4. "Oh, I would never put up with a man who did [insert gambling, cheating, etc.] and I think it would take a pretty weak woman to stay with him like the main character did."
Ouch. Making judgments about a relationship in a book can too easily translate to real life.
Linda _________________ "The Bookshop has a thousand books, all colors, hues and tinges, and every cover is a door that turns on magic hinges." ~ Nancy Byrd Turner |
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Eggletina
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Number four jumped out at me too. We all make moral judgments on characters and people in real life based on our values and experiences, but I think when discussing books we should make an effort to be aware that there will be someone in the audience who has either been in the same shoes as the characters we're judging or can relate to them, so it's best to try to phrase our feelings respectfully. Even better, make an effort to try to understand the other view point. In casual discussions people all too often assume their own crowd is in agreement, when probably people disagree with their buddies far more often then they'll publicly admit.
I think the most offended I ever got in an online discussion (not here, and not about a romance novel) was when a poster stated that she would question the intelligence of anyone who liked a certain book. It happened to be one of those much hyped bestsellers that people either loved or hated. I felt fairly neutral about it myself, but was offended for everyone who liked it when she made that comment. It's one thing to privately think such a thought (perhaps we've all been guilty of that a time or two) but to publicly air it is really inconsiderate and not productive for meaningful discussion. |
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dick
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| Naturally, I don't think stating that I couldn't get past the first chapter is wrong...because I've written it rather often because it often happens. |
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Eliza
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:46 am Post subject: |
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| Eggletina wrote: | | Number four jumped out at me too. We all make moral judgments on characters and people in real life based on our values and experiences, but I think when discussing books we should make an effort to be aware that there will be someone in the audience who has either been in the same shoes as the characters we're judging or can relate to them, so it's best to try to phrase our feelings respectfully. Even better, make an effort to try to understand the other view point. In casual discussions people all too often assume their own crowd is in agreement, when probably people disagree with their buddies far more often then they'll publicly admit. |
Me three! along with Linda and Eggletina, about #4.
Thanks, Linda, for posting the link and raising #4, and thanks, Eggletina, for your well articulated, thoughtful post.
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Eliza
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:56 am Post subject: |
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| dick wrote: | | Naturally, I don't think stating that I couldn't get past the first chapter is wrong...because I've written it rather often because it often happens. |
I don't think anyone saying a book is a DNF for him and leaving it at that is a problem... unless either side goes to great lengths to try to persuade the other the errors of their ways, when personal tastes just differ, period.
What about the book club, though, Dick? Hypothetically, would you skip that meeting? Has that happened to anyone else--being part of a book club with a DNF for you? |
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xina

Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 6630 Location: minneapolis
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| Eliza wrote: |
What about the book club, though, Dick? Hypothetically, would you skip that meeting? Has that happened to anyone else--being part of a book club with a DNF for you? |
Personally, I always finish a book for a book club. Slog through it the best I can. And then state an opinion. **or else just have more wine...LOL**
Seriously, I think someone writing a review should do the same. As for just commenting on a message board about a book. DNF is fine. I just think it's hard to comment after the DNF mark. _________________ "As you wish"
~The Princess Bride |
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Eggletina
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| The only time DNF bothers me in a book club scenario is when the person who didn't finish campaigned to get the book nominated. Now, I'm much more understanding if they tried and it just didn't work for them. It can be just as interesting to discuss why a book didn't engage the reader enough to want to continue. But when I tried some online clubs years ago, I'd find people who were nominating books they had read before and would either not join the discussion at all or just pop in with an excuse like, "I don't remember enough now to comment." Boy, does that drive me batty! |
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Tee

Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 4062 Location: Detroit Metro
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| xina wrote: | | As for just commenting on a message board about a book. DNF is fine. I just think it's hard to comment after the DNF mark. |
I agree. DNF really says a lot for a reader. They couldn't finish it for whatever reason. They can state that reason, but then that's usually the end of the discussion because the rest of the book remained unread. I DNF a lot these days, too. |
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xina

Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 6630 Location: minneapolis
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| Eggletina wrote: | | or just pop in with an excuse like, "I don't remember enough now to comment." Boy, does that drive me batty! |
I don't belong to any online bookclubs at the moment, but when I have been a part of one, I remember seeing that excuse quite a bit. I think I did it a time or two myself. *shrug* But never when I pushed to have that book discussed. I would reread...for sure, if that were the case. In a real life book club, that would be annoying. I've never seen that and I've been a part of quite a number of book clubs. _________________ "As you wish"
~The Princess Bride |
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